Here’s a collection of interesting twitter snippets from physicists I follow on twitter about today’s neutrino webcast announcing the surprising, and frankly unbelievable, results that the OPERA collaboration observed superluminal neutrinos.
The paper1 drops the potentially model shattering result in a dry
An early arrival time of CNGS muon neutrinos with respect to the one computed assuming the speed of light in vacuum of ns was measured. This anomaly corresponds to a relative difference of the muon neutrino velocity with respect to the speed of light
the important thing here being that the last number (v-c)/c is positive meaning according to their result. I haven’t watched the webcast myself, nor read the paper beyond the abstract yet so can only comment that I believe it must be systematics. That said it would be insanely interesting to be proven otherwise.
Finally, the following highlighted tweets are in reverse chronology, because, well… I’ve been here since the day after tomorrow, said the tachyon. What took you so long?
@jaclong Non-finite speed of light is a big, big change, but superluminal neutrinos don't actually imply that, nor do they imply a new limit
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@jaclong Superluminal neutrinos can exist, in agreement with relativity, as spacelike objects. Einstein would be cool with that.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@jaclong But relativity's profound statement isn't that nothing can go faster, it's that the speed of light is finite.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@jaclong Finite speed of light is a statement about geometry more than a speedlimit. Spacelike observers aren't the end of the world.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
#CERN #nuquestions webcast stats: peak audience around 15k.. same as the number of neutrinos in OPERA's sample…
— James Gillies (@JDGillies) September 23, 2011
@jfitzsimons Weakly though… Could be a bigger upset for the Standard Model than relativity :p
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@grimkat Not throw out at all, just use in it's limit. Superluminal neutrinos could be consequence of spacetimey wimey foam interactions.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@grimkat Not throw out at all, just use in it's limit. Superluminal neutrinos could be consequence of spacetimey wimey foam interactions.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
OPERA is the new code name for the TARDIS #mundaneneutrinoexplanations
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
Two takes on today's OPERA presentation on Quantum Diaries: http://t.co/uopjH7SJ and http://t.co/RoYdXRUE
— CERN (@CERN) September 23, 2011
@darktachyon We wouldn't have to throw out all of special relativity, just add an exception for certain high-energy particles.
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Antonio Ereditato, OPERA spokesman: Don't forget, main goal of OPERA is studying oscillation! #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Why would altitude of OPERA clocks matter? Gravitational time dilation: http://t.co/nGzgtW9j #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Why would altitude of OPERA clocks matter? Gravitational time dilation: http://t.co/nGzgtW9j #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
@jfitzsimons Within error doesn't count. They'll need something substantial to make that claim.
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
Neat that LNGS position monitoring for OPERA experiment tracked continental drift, geological events (such as 2009 earthquake) #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Scientists looking to poke holes in OPERA analysis. John Ellis: Rotation of the Earth accounted for? Dario Autiero: Yes. #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Dario Autiero of OPERA: Clocks at Gran Sasso and CERN at different elevations but constantly resynchronized #neutrinos
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
OPERA collaboration not speculating on implications if #neutrino measurement is correct.
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
@corbett_inc Yes, about 10% of the savings is from the shorter path; most is because photons need a waveguide which slows them down.
— Colin Percival (@cperciva) September 23, 2011
@cperciva communications are already not at c. neutrinos could travel through earth w/o interacting much; could try straight line
— Dr. C. Corbett Moran (@corbett) September 23, 2011
A pair of modulated neutrino beams could cut round trip communication time between NYSE and LSE by 10ms. Hedge funds, meet particle physics?
— Colin Percival (@cperciva) September 23, 2011
Full house at OPERA seminar http://t.co/ZpKMizEm
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
OPERA experiment is under a 1400m mountain, but neutrinos effectively travel 11km underground due to earth curvature #opera #neutrinos #cern
— Anais Rassat (@anaisrassat) September 23, 2011
Read the full Opera Paper – Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector
in the CNGS beam http://ow.ly/6CShF— (((Jenny Winder))) ★ (@astrojenny) September 23, 2011
OPERA collaboration not speculating on implications if #neutrino measurement is correct.
— Kathryn Jepsen (@grimkat) September 23, 2011
Live CERN webcast going on now http://t.co/CaelmVXA
— Interactions.org (@particlenews) September 23, 2011
Honestly, I'm really only interested in hearing the Q&A part of this seminar. Let me know when the lightening round begins. #OPERA
— Sarah Kavassalis (@sc_k) September 23, 2011
@lirarandall thanks for your opinion! 1) is all our opinions but not informed enough about 2) to comment. good to hear expert, concisely
— Dr. C. Corbett Moran (@corbett) September 23, 2011
Possible with extra dimensions–would still have to check consistency with what we know. And still–really not yet trusted
— Lisa Randall (@lirarandall) September 23, 2011
Everyone asking me about neutrinos. 1)Probably an error 2)If no error could indicate exotic violation of assumed underlying symmetry
— Lisa Randall (@lirarandall) September 23, 2011
today @ 4:30 (10:30EST) CERN stream of newest OPERA results. measuring neutrinos traveling faster than light. don't believe but exciting.
— Dr. C. Corbett Moran (@corbett) September 23, 2011
References
1 The OPERA Collaboraton: T. Adam, N. Agafonova, A. Aleksandrov, O. Altinok, P. Alvarez Sanchez, S. Aoki, A. Ariga, T. Ariga, D. Autiero, A. Badertscher, A. Ben Dhahbi, A. Bertolin, C. Bozza, T. Brugiére, F. Brunet, G. Brunetti, S. Buontempo, F. Cavanna, A. Cazes, L. Chaussard, M. Chernyavskiy, V. Chiarella, A. Chukanov, G. Colosimo, M. Crespi, N. D’Ambrosios, Y. Déclais, P. del Amo Sanchez, G. De Lellis, M. De Serio, F. Di Capua, F. Cavanna, A. Di Crescenzo, D. Di Ferdinando, N. Di Marco, S. Dmitrievsky, M. Dracos, D. Duchesneau, S. Dusini, J. Ebert, I. Eftimiopolous, O. Egorov, A. Ereditato, L. S. Esposito, J. Favier, T. Ferber, R. A. Fini, T. Fukuda, A. Garfagnini, G. Giacomelli, C. Girerd, M. Giorgini, M. Giovannozzi, J. Goldberga, C. Göllnitz, L. Goncharova, Y. Gornushkin, G. Grella, F. Griantia, E. Gschewentner, C. Guerin, A. M. Guler, C. Gustavino, K. Hamada, T. Hara, M. Hierholzer, A. Hollnagel, M. Ieva, H. Ishida, K. Ishiguro, K. Jakovcic, C. Jollet, M. Jones, F. Juget, M. Kamiscioglu, J. Kawada, S. H. Kim, M. Kimura, N. Kitagawa, B. Klicek, J. Knuesel, K. Kodama, M. Komatsu, U. Kose, I. Kreslo, C. Lazzaro, J. Lenkeit, A. Ljubicic, A. Longhin, A. Malgin, G. Mandrioli, J. Marteau, T. Matsuo, N. Mauri, A. Mazzoni, E. Medinaceli, F. Meisel, A. Meregaglia, P. Migliozzi, S. Mikado, D. Missiaen, K. Morishima, U. Moser, M. T. Muciaccia, N. Naganawa, T. Naka, M. Nakamura, T. Nakano, Y. Nakatsuka, D. Naumov, V. Nikitina, S. Ogawa, N. Okateva, A. Olchevsky, O. Palamara, A. Paoloni, B. D. Park, I. G. Park, A. Pastore, L. Patrizii, E. Pennacchio, H. Pessard, C. Pistillo, N. Polukhina, M. Pozzato, K. Pretzl, F. Pupilli, R. Rescigno, T. Roganova, H. Rokujo, G. Rosa, I. Rostovtseva, A. Rubbia, A. Russo, O. Sato, Y. Sato, A. Schembri, J. Schuler, L. Scotto Lavina, J. Serrano, A. Sheshukov, H. Shibuya, G. Shoziyoev, S. Simone, M. Sioli, C. Sirignano, G. Sirri, J. S. Song, M. Spinetti, N. Starkov, M. Stellacci, M. Stipcevic, T. Strauss, P. Strolin, S. Takahashi, M. Tenti, F. Terranova, I. Tezuka, V. Tioukov, P. Tolun, T. Tran, S. Tufanli, P. Vilain, M. Vladimirov, L. Votano, J. -L. Vuilleumier, G. Wilquet, B. Wonsak, J. Wurtz, C. S. Yoon, J. Yoshida, Y. Zaitsev, S. Zemskova, & A. Zghiche (2011). Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector in the CNGS beam CERN arXiv: 1109.4897v1